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Q.   "Art, it was the summer of 1963 when a bunch of us in northeastern Kentucky started filling our nighttimes hours with the sound of WLS and Art Roberts.  One of my friends told me "You've got to listen to this show on WLS-it's in Chicago- and Art Roberts."  From mid 1963 WLS was a nighttime centerpiece for many of us teenagers in that area.  Since the fall of 1963 was the period just before the coming of the Fab Four and the British Invasion I've tried to search my memory for the first arrival or The Beatles on WLS.  Somewhere deep in the cobwebs of my mind I have planted a song intro by someone on WLS which stated "This song is Number 1 in Australia." This was followed - I thought- by the playing of an early Beatles tune."  In my mind I have always placed this event somewhere prior to the "Big" arrival of the Beatles.  This leads to a few questions:  (1) When were the Beatles first played on WLS?  (2) What role did you have in introducing them to WLS listeners?  (3) What is the general timeline for their arrival on WLS?"   Thanks,  DAVE
 
A.   "As best as I remember, the first Beatle record played on WLS was around March 1st 1963.  The record was on a local Chicago label ... "PleasePlease Me" / VeeJay Records.  It charted one week later.  VeeJay was the first U.S. company to have the Beatles.  In one month alone in early 1964, they sold 2.6 million Beatles singles.  Two years later, the company was bankrupt."
 
"When VeeJay brought their recording to WLS they also brought a couple of British Fan Magazines to show the fervor the group caused in Europe.  Well, I figured ... 'What if the same thing happened in the USA?'   So, after playing the record, I invited the listeners to join "Beatles Fan Club # 1."  We had a few hundred join,  and were they ever proud to be FIRST when the Beatles exploded in 1964."
 
"I WANT TO HOLD YOUR HAND" charted on the Silver Dollar Survey January 17, 1964.  The rest is history."    ART
Q.   "I had listened to WLS for years while living in Ohio, but moved away and couldn't pick up the station after 1978.  After watching many AM top forty stations turn to other formats in the 70's, I was surprised to learn that WLS continued the top forty format well into the 80's.  Why were they successful in the format when other stations lost listeners to the FM side?   J.B.
 
A.   "WLS, as a Rock station, was unique among the AM Radio giants.  By the seventies, WLS had developed a loyal corps audience.  The station was always more than "just" Rock Radio ... offering superb news and community involvement.  The talent remained household names.  So back in the seventies and well into the eighties, the station was able to compete with the now all-powerful FM that most other AM owners feared.   
 
In 1985, WLS celebrated their 25th anniversary as a Rock station in Chicago.  Fans congregated at various spots around the city.  SO MANY FANS!  What amazed me most were their recollections of what we said 20 plus years ago.  Pictures in their wallets.  Fan club cards.  Memorabilia Treasures! 
 
And they still cherish them today.    ART

 

Q.   "I have a question.   In 1963, Joe Kelly was the all night Jock.  I remember he was only there for a very short time, which was pretty unusual for a WLS DJ.  What was the story with him & whatever happened to him?"    Stay Well,  RICK
 
A.   "Good question!  I remember Joe as being a friendly kinda guy.  He probably had the shortest tenure in the stations history, but it was beyond his control.  I believe he suffered from a malady that caused him to have seizures ... perhaps it was diabetes?  Anyhow, he suffered an attack while on the air.  After that Joe sought treatment, but never returned to WLS.  I have no idea where he eventually landed ... sure would like to find out."   ART
Q.   "Hi Art:   Thank you for the stuff you've put on reelradio.com.  I wish there was a way to download some of the material - particularly the old WLS airchecks - to my computer so I can burn them on CD and listen to them over and over again.  I don't know how many nights I went to the local root beer stand in my Dad's Pontiac with you and then Kris Stevens blaring.
 
I have been in radio ever since high school in the early 60's and now work for the Voice of America in news.  I have been looking for a couple of things and maybe you can help.  I have the last 30 minutes of WABC music radio - a montage introduced by Dan Ingram and Ron Lundy - and I would dearly love to find the same "music finale" for WLS ..."the day the music died."  If you have it, or know where to find it, I would be most appreciative.  What makes the WABC finale interesting is that interspersed with clips and clips of music are the jingles.
 
As a kid from Kentucky who grew up on WLS (the only rock station we could pick up at night along the Mississippi river) everytime I hear some of the stuff I have from there, I remember the gold old days - at least as good as you could get in a town of 4 thousand.  In any event, thanks again for your efforts.  I hope to hear from you soon.   PAUL WESTPHELING   VOA   WASHINGTON  DC
 
PS:  I vividly remember your close "this has been a work of Art, excelsior" and I will, at 54, unabashedly say that one of the highlights of my early career was visiting the WLS studios in Chicago and meeting Jeffrey Hendricks.  I always pictured him as 9 feet tall and about 400 pounds. (Imagine what I thought about Charles Scott?)  What a surprise to meet this tall and skinny guy with cojones down to the bottom of Lake Michigan.   WLS remains my only interest because there was never, nor will there ever be, a radio station quite like the "big 89".
 
A.   "First of all ... thank you for all the kind words and memories.  Check out www.reelradio.com   Plug in WLS in the search box.  You will receive a list of 38 Cuts.  Of special interest might be:
 
Larry Lujack's Last Show, Part 1, WLS 1987
Larry Lujack, WLS Farewell, Chicago 1987
Jeff Davis: WLS, The MusicRadio Years, 1960-1985
The Anita Kerr Singers WLS Jingles
The PAMS Series 18 WLS Jingles
The PAMS WLS Acapellas
PAMS WLS News Intro
 
Happy Listening ... Thanks for remembering.   ART

 

Q.   "One of my favorite groups in the sixties was Tommy James and the Shondells.  I got to see them one summer when you appeared with them in upper Michigan.  I haven't heard about them for a long time, are they still performing?   ALEX A.
 
A.   "Tommy James is alive and well -- still touring from time to time.  He has a web site which lists his appearances:  www.tommyjames.com   Hopefully, you will find a place to see him again.  Tommy is one of my favorite recording artists -- always fun to be around.  He is quite a Talent.  Tommy started playing the mandolin when he was three years old -- because a guitar was too big.   Formed the Shondells when he was 13.  Chalked up a slew of hits, including 'Hanky Panky';  'Mony Mony';  'Crimson & Clover';  'Crystal Blue Persuasion'; 'I Think We're Alone Now';  Draggin' the Line';   Etc.  Hope you can catch his act one day.   ART   

Q.  
"Art, I never thought I would be writing you but this is a real problem and I just don't know where to turn.  My wife is in radio and visits your web site every week.  I have to admit I find your Web site very interesting even though I have never been in radio.  Anyway, my wife was offered a job in another city which she feels is the best job of her life.  The trouble is I love my job and also this town.  And I also feel I have the best job of my life.  My wife told me she is going to the new radio station whether I come along or not.  What the hell should I do?   CARL
 
A.   "First of all, there is no way of knowing which job was -- "The best job of your life" until you retire.  Then you can look back and say, "Oh yeah, it was job No. 13."  Let's face it, the rules had changed.  When both husband and wife are working the paychecks have equal status.  Carl, the best job of your life could be right around the corner.  No one can tell you what to do -- the decision is in your court.  You might "delay" a final decision by allowing your wife to go to her new station and work there for a couple of weeks.  If it turns out to be as great as she anticipates, my suggestion to you would be to join her and start carving a new life for you both.  Besides, your marriage should come first -- don't blow it for a job.   ART
 

Q.   "In 1966 WLS radio commissioned a local group to re-record the Them hit "Gloria" because they objected to the lyrics.  Station management felt that the lyric "she comes in my room" is too suggestive for broadcast. Instead, they contact a local band, the Shadows of Knight, to re-record the tune. The Shadows of Knight version becomes a national top ten hit; the original stalls at
number 71 on the charts.  I had forgotten about this; what do you remember?"  
STEVE STEFFENS

 
A.   "I pretty well remember that is the way the Shadows of Knight inherited their hit record.  Of course, I always adhered to the theory: "If the legend is better than the story -- print the legend."  Anyway, thank you very much for the web site featuring the "Banned songs of the '60s.  It is being featured as the Webber of the Week.   ART

 

Q.   "Hello,  As a kid, I used to collect the surveys, but of course don't have them anymore.  I would LOVE to find a website, book or some place where I could find them, to re-live those glory days.  Watching the singles week to week on the surveys was such a gas.  Is there any where out there I can find the same info?  Thanks very much for your time.  JOE HAULDREN
 
A.   "The Guru of WLS Survey information is Ron Smith who still lives in the Chicago area.  Ron has published a book, "Chicago Top 40 Charts 1960 - 1969" which is a compilation of WLS charts.   He has just released a second volume which covers the WLS charts in the 70's.  The 80's book is in the works.  You can contact Ron at his Web Site  www.oldiesmusic.com 
 
These two books are highly recommended to EVERYONE -- be you a collector or fan of Oldies music.   ART

 

Q.   "Through all the years I listened to your show during the Holidays I was always very impressed with the many personal appearances and charity events you would talk about on your show.  Which one do you remember best?    DON F.
 
A.   "Best is always a tough call.  I do have one Christmas story that towers above the rest.  The Christmas I played Santa for an orphanage in Chicago.  The Sisters gathered a sack filled with toys and clothes -- way more than needed to satisfy the group of kids eagerly awaiting Santa's entrance.  I rambled into the room, "Ho-Ho-Ho'n" as I headed for the chair.  The kids lined up after finishing ice cream, cake, and a cup of hot chocolate.  I sat them on my knee and after a short conversation about being "good" I'd reach into the big bag and handed a smiling face an unexpected treasure.  Everything went smoothly until one kid changed the mood -- and my life.
 
As he walked toward my chair I could see his fists were clenched and his lips were tight.  He climbed into my lap, but one foot remained on the floor ... just in case he needed a quick getaway.  So I cut out the "good kid crap" and reached into the sack and pulled out a sharp car -- to which the little guy simply shook his head "no."  So I reached into  the bag and pulled out another choice prize, which got the same reception ... a "Head shaking no."  I asked this little fella what he really wanted?  He said "A fire engine with TWO firemen."  I went into a spiel ending with the words, "You know you can't always get what you want when you want it."  His eyes swelled into tears and he said:  "But I asked you for it last year, Santa."  MY eyes filled with tears. I told the Sisters I'd be back "tomorrow." 
 
Do you know they don't make a fire engine with two fireman!  Every model had only one fireman. Well,  I bought two, and placed the second fireman in the passenger seat.  My son, Wayne, got the spare engine as one of his presents.  And I got a call from one of the Sisters who described what had to be the Happiest kid in Chicago."   ART

 

Q. "How old were you when you first went into radio. I am 15 and my dad says I am too
young. It would only be on Sundays from 6 in the morning to 1 in the afternoon. What do
you think? MATT

A. "Maybe I should start this with 'Dear Dad' but your e-mail deserves a personal reply. 
I was 18, in college, and started by playing parts in radio plays produced by the
Neumann Club. That led to a part time job at the station during my senior year. I often
wished I had an earlier start, but being brought up in NYC leaves little hope for part time
jobs at big city stations.

I don't know what your Dad's objections are ... so get a yellow pad and draw a line down
the center. On one side write, "Dad's Objections" and let him list them all. On the other
side of the page write, "Matt's Future." Then list the following:

"Working for a radio station will teach me many valuable lessons that will build my
confidence and work ethic for future goals." 

1. Responsibility. I will need to acquire the technical knowledge to turn on the
transmitter, take precise readings, become computer literate, follow a format, and run all
the inventory (commercials) scheduled.

2. Timeliness. Every station has inserts that are required to run in real time. These
include newscasts; special features of interest, e.g. Fishing show; Religious broadcasts;
Local political issues. I must see to it that all are presented at the prescribed time.

3. Entertainment. It will become my responsibility to present the music in a flow and
pace that is attractive to the audience while following the format.

4. Residual. The experience I get from this job can be carried over to another full or part
time job in radio while attending a college in the future. 

Please let me know how you did ... ART

Q.   "Hi Art,   Did I hear Bob Sirrot say that you were from Westmont, IL?  I'm curious because I've lived in Westmont since 1971 (I'm 34).  Also, I'm suddenly interested in a long-gone Westmont club called The Blue Village.  Do you recall where it was located?  I understand you receive a good amount of e-mail, and it is nice to be able to contact you this way.  As I am a devout fan and appreciator of the mid-late sixties music, I find your web site to be a great place to get lost in.  Take care."   JIM  MULLAHY
 
A.   "You are right about the strength in 60's music.  It has proven to be a generation of music that sounds as fresh today as it did in the era it helped to build.  And think of all the sixties artists and bands that continue to enjoy popularity in the 21st century!
 
Jim, I was born in Brooklyn, NY, and brought up in Manhattan.  During our years in Chicago we lived in Niles, Glenview, Northbrook and Mount Prospect.  Never lived in Westmont.  Wish I could help you out in locating "The Blue Village."  You might ask Dick Biondi at WJMK if he ever appeared there.  ART

 

Q.  "Hi Art; I have a question about a song that I have on a 45.  The song is called "Make Believe" by Wind, but the lead singer sounds like Tony Orlando.  If I'm right why doesn't he get credit on the record. It's from Oct.25,1969.  Please let me know if I'm right. Thanks,"    TERRY
 
A.   "Yes, Tony Orlando was the lead singer of Wind. "Make Believe" reached #28 on Billboard's Hot 100 in the fall of 1969. 
 
Why no credit to Tony?  They were a bunch of studio musicians.  Tony hadn't been on the charts in eight years so his name wouldn't have sold many records.  The next year Tony got involved with a group called Dawn and they still didn't give him label credit.   It wasn't until 1971 (after four top 40 hits) that their records started saying "Dawn featuring Tony Orlando".  Nobody ever said life was fair.   ART

 

Q.   "One of my favorite artists is Freddy Fender.  Is he still performing around the country?  Do you have any idea where I can see him?  Thanks Art.    FELIPE R.
 
A.   "Freddy Fender has been entertaining fans for more than 40 years singing Tejano, pop, country and even the blues.  People still love hearing his hits like "Wasted Days and Wasted Nights"  "Before the Next Teardrop Falls"  Etc.  He is still performing.  Freddy will be appearing in Tucson, AZ this Sunday, November 18th.  He has a Web Site which will help you keep up with his appearances. www.freddyfender.com  Hope you catch one of his shows.   ART
 

Q.   "Art - I was driving down the road the other day and I heard the voice of Scott Muni. I don't know what station...but these days who cares, they all sound the same.  Did you ever work with him?  What station is he on now?  PAUL P.

 
A.   "I never worked with Scott, but we were in Akron, Ohio at the same time,  (So was Mad Daddy Pete Meyers.)  What a great radio city that was!  Scott was at WAKR and I did the afternoon show on WCUE. We did get to know one another.  This was around 1957 / 58.  Scott went to WABC for a few years, also worked at WNEW and WOR, and did lottsa commercials.  Remember the Rolaids spot: "HOW DO YOU SPELL RELIEF?"  That was Scott's voice.  Last I heard he was doing a show for an hour on Saturdays at Q-104 in New York.  Scott is in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame."  ART 
 

Q.   "This 56 year old fan wants to say thank you for all the hours of enjoyment we got from listening to your show in the sixties.  I hope you don't think this too strange, but my favorite song was  "Tip Toe Through The Tulips" sung by a pop eyed singer named Tiny Tim.  I remember seeing him on your Saturday afternoon TV show.  Is he still singing?   VINNIE

 

A.   "Afraid not.  Tiny Tim died of a heart attack about 5 years ago.  I believe he was 64.  Tiny Tim loved old, obscure songs, and knew most of them by heart.  So did my Dad.  During our interview I called his office in New York, and Tiny Tim sang "Dapper Dan", one of my fathers favorite tunes.  Tiny Tim's autographed picture hung on the wall of my Dad's study 'til he passed on two years ago."   ART 
 

Q. "Dear Art -- Oh Great Swami of the Internet, can you help me? You have always said that "networking" is the best way to get ahead in radio. My experience began and ended with a internship at a local station. I have applied in person to every radio station in my city and did not get a nibble. Am I doomed to a life of afternoon soaps? CINDY

A. "Gee, I hope not. Successful Networking is a lifelong process. It is NOT merely contacting people ONLY when they are needed. Networking is remaining in contact on a periodic basis -- forever. One never knows when a classmate or friend will rise to a position of influence. I worked with a salesman in Buffalo who became a VP at ABC Radio. I hired an assistant at WLS who was elevated to a VP at Columbia / Epic Records. And there are many others. They are ALL Friends, first -- sounding boards if needed.
The first rule of networking is to go back to your beginning. Re-visit the station where you interned and talk to the PD and Manager. Tell them of your goals. Solicit their help. Also talk to others there
(Jocks, etc.) for leads they might point to. Check back periodically. Repeat this process at any other station in town you would like to lend your talents. It does not matter WHERE you start -- GETTING started is the important issue. Turn off the TV and pound the pavement." ART

Q.   "Hey Art...we need you to settle an argument.  Me and my friends were sitting in my rec room the other night doing some serious damage to a 12 pack.  We started to kick around the music back in the good old days when the question of where did Rock and Roll start came up?  One of my buds said New Orleans, another said Memphis and the third said back east in New York and Philadelphia.  What do you say?  LENNY IN LINCOLN,  NE

 
A.   "Lenny, your "Bud in the middle" had it right.  Most music trends seem to have a simultaneous beginning, but the credit for the start and cultivation of Rock music belongs to Memphis.  More so -- to Sun Studios.  Before "Rock Around The Clock," before Elvis -- Sun Recording Studios opened their doors to unknown kids who invented and reinvented Rock 'N Roll.
 
One of the best music web sites is  www.sunstudio.com   Click onto the 45 record icon (on the top row) marked FREE TOUR,  TURN UP YOUR SPEAKERS and enjoy an outstanding event.  You will want to bookmark this site.   ART

Q.   As a teen growing up in the late 60's in southern Kansas, I used to listen to WLS at night, after KLEO 1480 in Wichita went off at sunset.  My big memory of WLS was the ten jillion commercials for Mr. Norm's Grand Spaulding Dodge at 3300 Grand Avenue where you could buy a brand new 1967/8/9/70 Dodge Charger super-tuned & analyzed for $2599 (or whatever).  My question is: Is Mr. Norm's still around?

Another memory was hearing the temperatures around the Chicago area in winter.  It's 90 below at Midway, etc.  Now living in Dallas Ft Worth, TX area, people think it's cold at 35 degrees.”   DAVID, Watauga, TX

 

A.   “Mr. Norm sold his ownership in Grand Spaulding Dodge in 1977.  He was the King of what Muscle Car Fans in the sixties dreamt about -- Max-Wedge, Hemi, Magnum, SixPack, 440 Dart GSS, Supercharged 340's and Dyno Tuned.

Norm Kraus began his automotive career selling used cars with his brother Len from a gas station their father Harvey owned in 1948. They were located at the corner of Grand and Spaulding in Chicago.  Fourteen years later they became Grand Spaulding Dodge.  Mr. Norm made history in 1964 when he formed his racing team, sponsored dances for his sports club, and started advertising on WLS.  His sales DOUBLED, and continued to double every year for the next seven years.  Grand Spaulding Dodge became Number One, the largest volume Dodge dealership in the world.  Their fleet department became so large that it supplied all of the Chicago Police Department cars.

If you remember Mr. Norm's ads in the sixties, most of today's car dealer efforts are pretty wimpy.   ART  

 

Q. My favorite singer in the fifties and sixties was Bobby Rydel(sp) and I would like to know what happened to him. Is he still singing? RALPH 

A. Yes he is. As far as I know, Bobby Rydell is still performing with his neighborhood pals Frankie Avalon and Fabian. Bobby has always been one of my favorites. When I was at WKBW, Buffalo, he and his manager Frankie Day came over to our house for a Barbecue. Bobby even dated my sister. 

You can find out more about one of the top 50’s / 60’s Teen Idols at www.bobbyrydell.com 

Wanna hear somethin’ scary? Next April 26th (2002) Bobby Rydell will be 60. ART

Q.   "Weren't you sued for playing The Pledge of Allegiance on WLS?”   Tom 

 A.   "Yes, someone in Kankakee, IL sued both WLS and me, claiming they had the right NOT to be subjected to listening to America's Pledge of Allegiance as presented in the Red Skelton recording.  We turned it over to ABC Legal and I never heard about the outcome.  I also never stopped playing the recording."   ART 

Thanks to TOM we have a copy of the words ...  

As a schoolboy, one of Red Skelton's teachers explained the words and meaning of the Pledge of Allegiance to his class.  Red Skelton later wrote down, and eventually recorded, his recollection of this lecture.  It is followed by a personal observation. 

"I - - Me; an individual; a committee of one.  Pledge - - Dedicate all of my worldly goods to give without self-pity.  Allegiance - - My love and my devotion.  To the Flag - - Our standard; Old Glory -- a symbol of Freedom.  Wherever she waves there is respect, because your loyalty has given her a dignity that shouts ‘Freedom is everybody's job.’  United - - That means that we have all come together.  States - - Individual communities that have united into forty-eight great states.  Forty-eight individual communities with pride and dignity and purpose.  All divided with imaginary boundaries, yet united to a common purpose, and that is love for country.  And to the Republic - - Republic -- a state in which sovereign power is invested in representatives chosen by the people to govern.  And government is the people -- and it's from the people to the leaders, not from the leaders to the people.  For which it stands One Nation - - One Nation -- meaning, so blessed by God.  Indivisible - - Incapable of being divided.  With Liberty - - Which is Freedom; the right of power to live one's own life, without threats, fear, or some sort of retaliation.  And Justice - - The principle, or qualities, of dealing fairly with others.  For All - - For All -- which means, boys and girls, it's as much your country as it is mine."  

"And now, boys and girls, let me hear you recite the Pledge of Allegiance:"  

I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic, for which it stands; one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.  

"Since I was a small boy, two states have been added to our country, and two words have been added to the Pledge of Allegiance:  ‘Under God.’  Wouldn't it be a pity if someone said THAT is a prayer, and that would be eliminated from schools, too?"  

Red Skelton  

American Comedian

1913 - 1997

 

Q.   "I read your article about Kevin McCarthy being on the beach and that is where I'm at today.  Last week I was told my services were no longer needed and I was given a handshake and 4 weeks severance for two years of loyalty. Art, I am at the point of wanting to switch careers but I don't know where to start.  Any ideas?   BILL
 
A.   "Bill, I not only have an idea, I might even have a solution ... Or at least the road to one.  My dear friend Larry Shannon wrote a workbook some time ago for just such a problem.  He observed that many of his co-workers who were in radio are now pondering the same problem you are.  His workbook may very well point you in the right direction.  You can reach Larry by e-mail at:  LarryShannon@Radiodailynews.com or click here.
 
Good luck my friend, please stay in touch.   ART

 

Q.   "I am an ardent follower of your web site every week.  As a Communications major I find the content and advise extremely interesting and beneficial.   (Have you ever conducted a seminar?)  Since I'm in my senior year, I look forward to a career in radio.  I would like your opinion about the future of the broadcast industry?  STEPHEN S.  
 
A.   "If life and experience have taught us anything, it is that "change is inevitable."  That is the nature of all business.  Growth is a necessity in every industry, and keeping pace with technology will always afford change.  Radio as we have become accustomed to is going through a restructuring period.  In the end, I believe, the broadcast industry will offer challenges in a variety of directions, which include the Internet, Satellite, and a Global reach which will incorporate present and future technology.  This is a prime time to be in broadcasting.  Know what you want to accomplish and remain in focus.
 
I have done many seminars at various conclaves and institutions of learning.  Loved them all.   ART
 

Q.   "I never missed one of your programs while growing up in Chicago.  I was even one of the kids with their nose pressed up against the glass interviewing room.  You had so many features on your show, Peter Fugitive, the projects each day, bedtime stories, Whopper Waffles, Groovy Teacher awards, Hooty Sapperticker.... I remember them all.  Which one was your favorite?"   EVELYN

 
A.  "Now, that is it tough question to answer.  Almost as bad as asking someone what is their favorite song.  I guess I like them all, but if I have to pick one as a favorite it would be the Bedtime Stories.  I really did write most of them on the back of a horse  while riding down a trail in a forest preserve.  The first thing I would make up would be the ending.  That way I knew how to get out of the story.  It was quite a challenge to write a bedtime story every day for about five years.  By the way Evelyn, you have a fantastic memory.  Thank you,  ART
 

Q.   "Dear Art,   I never miss your R&I.  Maybe you should call it T&N, Thoughts and News.  I am inspired by "what you say and how you say it."  Please clear up the mystery of  "My Pal Perry?"  Who is Perry?  PAUL

 
A.   I met  Perry in 1959 while doing afternoons at WKBW,  Buffalo, one of the great pioneer Rock stations in the country.  Perry did the morning show, and many a morning he would perform an hysterical bit that would cause the morning coffee to spew from ones nostrils.  Like all Great stations, the staff was outstanding -- Perry Allen, Russ Syracuse, Dick Biondi, Tom Shannon, (Premier Newsman) Irv Weinstein, (Owner) Clint Churchill, (Consultant) Mike Joseph, (Program Director) John Barrett.   I lost track of Perry during the years of "no e-mail" and he was kind enough to fill in the blanks ...
 
"He was born in a trunk in the Princess theater in Pocatello, Idaho.  Perry Allen's legal name is "The late Judy Garland."  After faking through the University of Denver, he proceeded to die for his country as a Navy combat correspondent in Korea.  Then there was Tokyo deejaying for AFRS.  And blah, blah, blah.  Allen did mornings for WKBW, Buffalo after which he gained his long-dreamed of Los Angeles morning show.  That process helped KRLA, L.A. play lose the license.  Then it was on to KHJ, KFI and Channel 9 in that city intermingled with on air and programming intrusions in Denver, Seattle and San Diego at KTLN, KHOW, KVI, KDEO, KFMB, KCBQ and KOGO.  For several semesters, the career-migrant co-operated a Hollywood production company.   Obviously, his resume was written on a change of address card.  Perry wrote for several TV comedy shows as well as hosting a local L.A. kid's show which his own son refused to watch.  Currently, he writes for print and steals Internet jokes which he passes off as his own creation.  Perry Allen is a figment of his warped imagination."
 
You gotta LOVE him!!!    ART
 

Q.   "For the last two years I have been doing the morning show at a small station in Oklahoma.  My salary is $1300 a month, plus a lot of trade which includes gas, groceries, restaurants, etc.  So I am not making a lot of money but we are living real good.  My wife says that eventually I am going to want to move on, and when I do, my low salary will hold me back.  Is she right?"    AUBREY

 
A.   "Not really.  Should you leave the comforts found in this small town in Oklahoma to pursue the unknown in a larger market, you might find yourself not that  much ahead.  I think what you'll miss the most is the trade -- the free dinners, movies, gas, etc.  Add it all up and see what it comes to.  Might surprise you.   But if the call of the wild gets the best of you, when you talk salary with your next employer be sure to include the amount of trade to your annual earnings.  NEVER refer to your extra earnings as trade.  Refer to your total earnings as -- "salary and benefits."  Good luck my friend.   ART

 

Q.   "Hi Art,  Once upon a time in my joyous youth you were there for me when I needed an adult friend.  I recall your ramblings about a person named Farfel, but I can't remember who Farfel was?  Have I remembered the correct name?  SALLY
 
A.   "Okay, let's set the record straight.  Farfel was not a person, Farfel was a little mouse who lived in the walls of our studio.  He would come out and visit us every evening.  I always figured he liked the music we played on WLS.  Things went very well for awhile; we enjoyed his company and he enjoyed our treats.  I would talk about Farfel and he developed a loyal fan club.  One day I walked into the studio to do my show and I noticed MOUSE TRAPS strategically scattered around the room.  Horror.  Karl, the evil building superintendent, heard about Farfel and vowed to catch him.  Karl checked the traps daily.  Disappointed, he grimaced his teeth as he crashed through the door muttering something in German we didn't understand.  It became a cruel game.  Farfel would visit us every evening for his treats and  concert, calculatingly avoiding the wicked traps -- driving Karl further and further over the edge.  I truly thought it was all over the day the exterminator arrived.  He sprayed every corner of the room with rat poison.  I wondered if in another life he operated a guillotine for living.  Farfel paid us a visit that evening.  I bent down and gave him a piece of cheese and some advice.  "Don't eat anything in this room unless I give it to you -- understand?"  That was the last time we saw Farfel.  I like to think he met a pretty girl mouse and they moved to another floor."   ART

 

Q.   "my name is Felipe i am 22 years old, from Colombia and i am interested in study broadcasting ( i love rock and roll radio ), so can you please say to me which and where is the best place for study this?    Thanks a lot.    FELIPE
 
A.   Felipe, this answer to your question not only pertains to you, but to anyone who is truly interested in launching a career in broadcasting.  I contacted my friend Burt, a radio professional who has been teaching at Columbia College in Chicago for many years.  I highly recommend the school.  Most of my assistants at WLS attended the college.  Burt wrote: "Columbia has a lot to offer and several programs in radio that one can choose.  Should begin with a catalog.  Of course, personal attention to any potential student with face to face consultation is always there. Just need to make an appointment."
 
I also received an e-mail from Barbara Calabrese, chairperson at Columbia College.
 
Barbara Calabrese, Chair, at bcalabrese@popmail.colum.edu
My direct telephone number is 312-344-8162
College address is 33 East Congress, Suite 700, Chicago, IL  60605
 
"I will be out of town until the 27th of August.  In the meantime your readers can contact:
Marssie Mencotti    mmencotti@popmail.colum.edu
or Hope Daniels    hdaniels@popmail.colum.edu
or Cheryl Morton Langston   clangston@popmail.colum.edu
 
They can call the Department office at 312-344-8156 to receive information or to set up an appointment with me when I get back in the office the week of the 27th.
 
If interested, potential students still have time to enroll for the Fall semester which doesn't begin until  late September.  They should contact the Admissions Department at 312-344-7129 or 344-7130 to receive further information.
 
The Radio Department offers a comprehensive major in Radio Broadcasting.  Students can choose to concentrate in either Talent/Production or Sales/Marketing.  All students are required to complete at least one semester at the student-managed college radio station WCRX, 88.1 FM, where they can obtain experience in on-air broadcasting for music, talk , sports or news radio as well as work in technical production, marketing and promotion, or  as a radio producer.  WCRX has state of the art studio facilities including digital production.  Beginning in the fall, WCRX will be streamed on the internet.   Other programs include live play-by-play sports coverage, sports and news talk programs, and radio drama. Students also have the option to complete internships at major Chicago radio stations.  Our faculty are radio professionals who work as on-air talent, production directors, producers and sales and marketing executives."
 
Best of luck Felipe, and to all who have an interest in becoming a radio professional.   ART

 

Q.   "Dear Art; I just want to ask you why do radio stations play the same songs everyday?  I can see a top 40 station but an oldies doesn't have to.  They can be a goldmine with the right mix of songs.  If you were in charge of a oldies station how would you run it?  Please let me know.   Thank You,  TERRY
 
A.   "Most oldies stations today have a playlist about 400 songs.  Programmers are more like, "substitute teachers" who practice Roll and Control in a classroom.  In other words, they have a plan to follow, and never deviate from the script.  Therefore, if an oldies station plays 18 songs an hour, they will play every song on the list in less than two days.  If they do use jocks instead of voice tracking, many display an ineptness towards the music and artists by reading cue cards and mispronouncing names of yesterday's record heroes.
 
There are exceptions to this rule.  WJMK in Chicago features experienced radio personnel like Dick Biondi who add a great sense of credibility to the music they play.  Last time I looked, they were doing very well in the ratings.
 
So, in answer to your question, I guess that would be the road I would follow.  I would hunt up a half-dozen Hubcap Carter's and Jimmy Rabbitt's and turn them loose on the listening audience."   ART

 

Q.   "Hi, Art.  I love Don Etheridge's puppy training advice.  Seems to me it would work with kids and employees, too! Who is Don Etheridge?    MARK
 

A.   "Don is a person we trained with in Tyler, Texas.  We belonged to the Tyler Obedience Training Club (TOTC) and along with training our own dogs, we offered our services to the public by conducting Novice Obedience Training to anyone interested.  It was a lot of fun.  Bobbi and I have three Shelties.  Our oldest -- Kipper -- has earned all three degrees -- CD (Companion Dog);  CDX (Companion Dog Excellence);  and UD (Utility Dog), along with a scrapbook filled with ribbons, many for 'Best of Show.'  Billie Jo has earned two degrees (CD & CDX) and also has a scrapbook filled with ribbons and awards.  Her new love is agility.  My personal dog, Willie Nelson, can do it all including agility, but as a hangup against performing in a ring.  He will perform flawlessly if we're alone, so I call him my backyard champion.  And you should hear him sing "On The Road Again."  ART
 

Q.   "Art,  I guess I have read enough, and I need to speak, THIS IS GREAT.  All of the old memories. I'm sitting here watching the 4th of July festivities on A&E and reading your web page.  I grew up in the western part of Kankakee County amongst the corn and soybeans in a very rural town, and for a kid growing up in the sixties, if it wasn't for WLS and the Jocks I don't know how we would have ever made it in those times.  All of the social and political pressures, the bomb and things one could make us imagine.  I guess the good old days are not completely gone, but you sure gave me many great times listening to the ART ROBERTS SHOW.  I guess, like others that reach ones middle life it is nice to reflect on those times that made us happy growing up.  The recent final airing of the "Bozo" show on WGN in Chicago was just another land mark.  I could list like others on the web site, all those great people on WLS and WGN, good people with good things to say.

 
Unlike some of those who have written you, I didn't pursue radio, I wish I had. I became an amateur radio op because of those days of listening to radio.  In the early 80's, I moved our family, My wife and 3 boys to Texas.  The boys have a Country Rock Band, the youngest is studying music and is majoring in Sound Recording Technology, he wants to become a studio musician.  Well, not radio, but close enough for the old man.
 
One last thing in passing, you mentioned doing a gig in Kankakee at a Union Hall, I wonder if you remember the Concerts in and around the Chicago Area, including Kankakee at the " Wild Goose".  If I remember correctly they were held at the local YMCA's and also the "Reservation" in Pontiac, IL.
Well hope I didn't bore you.  Thank You for the great memories, hope my sons will have the same.
 
SCOTT,  GRANGER, TX
 
A.   "The Wild Goose" was the name of a series of dances featuring Dex Card, afternoon disc jockey on WLS.  They were on the par of a traveling roadshow -- the dances floated around the area, and were extremely popular.  Dex is now retired and soaking up the sunshine in Florida.   ART

 

Q.   "Art,   Over the 4th. I was working on putting things together to send to Larry for my website, and I was going thru listening to the tapes of radio shows that I had intact, (no scope) and I found a couple from KDOK with you on one side and me sitting in for you on the other, and some where I was sitting in for the KGLD guy, and I made a small list of songs that we played, that still sound good, that nobody plays! You're the best, and I was following your lead!  We need to get back on the air somewhere with that 4mat!!!!!
 
Hula Love/Buddy Knox, Whispering Bells/Del-Vikings, Bony Maronie/Larry Williams, Without Love/Clyde McPhatter, Somethin' Else/Eddy Cochran, Smokey Places/Corsairs, I'm Walkin'/Fats Domino, Rain, The Park& Other Things/Cowsils, Keep A Knockin'/Little Richard, Rain' In My Heart/Buddy Holly, Singing The Blues/Marty Robbins, It's All Over Now/The Rolling Stones, Your Cheatin' Heart/Ray Charles, I Can't Stop Loving You/Ray Charles, You Belong To Me/The Duprees, Sleep Walk/Santo and Johnny, Susie Darlin' /Robin Luke, Suite: Judy Blue Eyes/CSN&Y, California Sun/Rivieras, Mississippi/John Phillips, Iko ko /Dixie Cups, It's Gonna Work Out Fine/Ike and Tina, Dark Moon/Gale Storm, Game of Love/Mindbenders, It's The Same Old Song/4 Tops, Suzie Q/Dale Hawkins, Me and Bobbie McGee/Janis Joplin, Party Lights/Claudine Clark, Shu Rah/Fats Domino/ Like A Rolling Stone/Bob Dylan, White Room/Cream, Jim
Dandy/LaVern Baker, Elvira/Oak Ridge Boys, Rain on The Roof/Lovin' Spoonful, You Beat Me To The Punch/Mary Wells, You Were On My Mind/We Five....and on and on...not counting the stuff that you can still hear on "some" oldies stations, and some counrty and big band that I didn't even bother to list. I still love The Spitfire Band!  Hearing Instrumentals without some idiot talking over them is a real treat!
yor fan and friend,   EDDY PAYNE
 
p.s. who did:  Your Ma Said You Cried In Your Sleep Last Night?  I used to hear you play it in Chicago!
 
A.   "KDOK, Tyler, Tejas, was (and probably still is) the last vestige of freedom I experienced in radio.  Their target audience was 45 to "as long as you were breathing," and the variety of music which related to them molded a format that was like jelly in a bowl.  Paul Z. Berry was the PD (and still is.)  He has a passion  for the music.  Whether it was the Beach Boys concert or The Big Band dance featuring the local orchestra, you were able to experience the "love vibes" by looking into the audiences eyes. 
 
' Your Ma Said You Cried In Your Sleep Last Night'  was sung by Kenny Dino -- 1961."
 
ART ROBERTS

 

Q. "Just picked up on your book via a Radio World article. I was listening in downstate Illinois (Paxton), when LS switched over to Top 40, which I think was in "59. The station was bigger than life and all of us kids listened in East Central Illinois. I remember a parody song the station did of "Hillbilly Heaven", and it used the WLS jocks instead of the C&W stars of the orginal. I remember it to this day....Sam Hollman, Gene Taylor, Art Roberts, Mort Crowley and I think Dick Biondi. Do you remember this? At any rate, my interest in WLS as a kid finally got me started in the radio business in ' 71, and I just semi-retired after 30 years in the biz. One of the highlights of my career was that I got to work with Gene Taylor about 8-9 years ago and with Ralph Beaudin, here in Omaha. Gene had wonderful stories about those days in Chicago and of course, so did Ralph. Ralph came back to Omaha to finish his career and was my GM until he became so sick. Gene worked here as well as News Director, having moved here from California. It was so neat to hear these guys talk about those days at WLS. I also remember Clark Webber, Ron Riley's Raiders, Lujack and so many more. What a great radio station that was! We'll probably never ever see that kind of radio again, sadly. Anyway, I'm going to buy the book! Thanks, Art! MARTY

A. "You were close, WLS hit the airwaves in April, 1960. You are very lucky to have worked with Ralph Beaudin and Gene Taylor. Two of my favorite people. The song you referred to was called "I Dreamed of a Hillbilly Heaven." It was sung by Tex Ritter, on Capital Records. Each major city had one station chosen to receive a "special copy" of the song naming the disc jockeys of that station. It was quite spooky to hear your name mentioned as "deceased." But it worked. "Hillbilly Heaven" turned out to be one of the top records in Chicago." ART

 

Q.   "Your intro jingle Hey Baby They're Playing Our Song on the Art Robert's Show seems to me to be one of my favorite Chicago R&B groups, Maurice McAlister & the Radients ( Voice Your Choice, Shy Guy, etc).  Unmistakable sound.  Am I right?  How did you pick them?"    PAUL
 
A.   "At the time "Hey Baby, They're Playing Our Song On The Art Roberts Show" was recorded, Maurice was part of the studio band at Chess Records.  The show intro was a gift to me from the band because they were big fans of the oldies show on Sunday night.  It was written and recorded in about a half-hour, and produced at the tail end of a recording session.  Needless to say -- I was thrilled when I heard the theme song.  They also produced the theme song for my TV show, "The Swingin' Majority."   ART

Q.  Thanks for writing that book, Thinkin' Out  Loud.  I've enjoyed the inside insights into an industry I don't know much about.  You wrote some things in some of the chapters about "consultants" who have apparently narrowed the play lists at stations.  I noticed this was becoming the norm back in the early '70s, and guessed something like this was happening.  There was a 50,000 watt giant in Birmingham, WVOK, that had a kind of rural flavor to its format and some of the records they played didn't seem to show up much on other stations.  Some examples back in the mid-'60s were Ahab the Arab, In the Misty Moonlight, Haunted House, Wolverton Mountain, and a host of rockabilly tunes that had a country air about them.  Around 1968 a new 10,000 watt AM station began broadcasting in Huntsville, Alabama, and they played some tunes in 1969 and 1970 while I was working for NASA that are practically non-existent on the air today: Pretty World, Jean, A Boy Named Sue, Lay Lady Lay, When I Die (not And When I Die), I'm Gonna Make You Mine, What's the Use Of Breaking Up, Tracy, Something In the Air, Smile A Little Smile For Me, Suite: Judy Blue Eyes, Ruben James, Evil Woman, Don't Play Your Games With Me, Raindrops Keep Falling On My Head, Early In the Morning, Venus, Winter World of Love, Ticket to Ride (Carpenters' first record), One Tin Soldier, Come Saturday Morning, Love or Let Me Be Lonely, Vehicle, For the Love of Him, Little Green Bag, Puppet Man, The Long and Winding Road, It's All In the Game, Cinnamon Girl, Gimme Dat Ding, The Girl's Song, Cecelia, Reach Out and Touch (Somebody's Hand), Mississippi, Snowbird, Rubber Duckie (that's right, from Jim Henson), Hi-De-Ho, Groovy Situation, It's A Shame, Joanne, Out In the Country, Lola, Yellow River, Gypsy Woman, Montego Bay, I Think I Love You, Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is?, Stoney End, River Deep - Mountain High, One Man Band (I blew out my car speakers on that one driving home from work!  They were dry-rotted, though.), Rose Garden, Mr. Bojangles (my old 45 has the interview at the start), Carolina In My Mind, etc.

 Boy, what somebody could do with a few bucks, a little imagination, and a lot of freedom!  Am I on the right track?    L.G.
 
A.   "I would say you have it all figured out.  Now, if a person NOT in the radio profession can spot the boredom that is predominant in most of today's formats, why do the majority of current programmers and consultants turn a deaf ear to the blandness that exists?  Hmmmmmm??"   ART  

Q.   "I'm just getting started in radio and I like it very much.  My dad spent 20 years in radio and I am proud to follow in his footsteps.  But I am getting a lot of heat from my sister who does television news.  She keeps telling me that there is no future in radio anymore and I should get a job in TV because I can go further.  Is she right?    SEAN

A.   "Go with your heart Sean, go with your heart.  The most successful people usually are doing something they truly love.  They spend 24/7 either working, thinking, or developing their craft.  There certainly are no guarantees in either media.  My advice would be to play out the hand that was dealt to you and see where it leads.  Stay focused -- if a crossroad appears on the horizon, you'll make the right choice as you approach it.   ART

 

Q.   "Art i want to know who is the single black artist that has sold the most albums of all time ?
 A.   "I would have to say MICHAEL JACKSON.  He certainly has won more awards than anyone else.  Here is a partial list. 
Most Successful Concert Series - Guinness Book Of World Records
Michael Jackson sold out for seven nights at Wembley Stadium, London, England in the summer of 1988. A total of 504,000 people saw Michael perform July 14-16, 22-23, and August 26-27, 1988.
Biggest Selling Album Of All Time - Guinness Book Of World Records
Michael Jackson's "Thriller" Album is the biggest selling album of all time, with over 50 million copies sold worldwide. Thriller is also the biggest selling U.S album with sales of 25 million copies.
80's Most #1 Hits
By The End of the 1980's MIchael Jackson had more #1 hits than any other artist for the decade.
Entertainer Of The Decade
With the #1 (Thriller)and #2 (Bad) ranked albums in the world Michael was the 1980's Entertainer Of The Decade.
Most Grammy Awards - Guinness Book Of World Records
Michael won a record breaking 8 Grammy Awards in 1984, more than any other artist in one year.
Largest Contracts - Guinness Book Of World Records
$890 million (Sony Music) Contract, with prospective earnings of $1 billion.
Greatest Audience - Guinness Book Of World Records
The highest-ever viewership was 133.4 million viewers watching the NBC transmission of Super Bowl XXVII on June 31, 1993. Michael was spotlighted during the half-time performance.
Highest-Paid Commercial Spokesperson - Guinness Book Of World Records
Pepsi Cola paid Michael Jackson $12 million to do 4 TV commercials.
Bad Tour - Guinness Book Of World Records
Michael Jackson's world tour brought in a record gross revenue of over $124 million during September 1987-December 1988.
Billboard Charts
Michael Jackson is the first person in the 37 year history of the chart to enter at # 1, with his single "You Are Not Alone". Michael broke his previous record held by his single "Earth Song" which debuted at #5.
Biggest Selling Video
Michael Jackson's "The Making Of Thriller" is the biggest selling video to be released by an artist.
 Billboard "Hot 100" Singles Chart
Most #1 Hits by Male Artist (13)
 1 Debuts
Michael's "Bad", "Dangerous", and "History" albums all debuted at #1.
 Consecutive #1 Singles
Jackson 5 were the first group to ever have four consecutive #1 singles.
 #1 On Charts
In 1983 Michael became the first artist to simultaneously hold the number one spots on Billboard's rock albums and rock singles charts, as well as the R&B albums and singles charts.
 First Video
Michael Jackson was the first black artist to have a video aired on MTV.
 Largest Contracts - Guinness Book Of World Records
$890 million (Sony Music) Contract, with prospective earnings of $1 billion.
 100 Million Records
Michael has sold over 100 million singles and albums outside of the U.S.
 .... ETC.
 Then, my good friend Ron Smith (who is a flat-out whiz when it comes to music) had this to say:  "This is one of those questions that's tough to answer. As you say, "Number one" based on what? Sales, chart position, albums, singles, both?
 Clearly Michael Jackson has sold more albums than any other black artist-- "Thriller" alone has sold 26 million copies at last count in the U.S. (it plays leapfrog with the Eagles' "Greatest Hits" as the best-seller of all time).  And not even counting his work with his brothers he's had 13 #1 singles.
 But don't overlook James Brown. While his album sales are not as impressive as Michael's, this man has dominated the singles charts, both R&B and Pop.  In fact, he has more top 40 hits on the pop charts than Michael.  And while he's never had a #1 pop hit, 16 of his pop crossovers were #1 on the R&B charts. James is the #1 artist in "Joel Whitburn's Top R&B Singles" book. 
And don't even get me started on Aretha Franklin..."
Well,  that SHOULD settle it!    ART

 

Q.   "Hi Art,   I am a fan of yours from the 60's. I used to listen on my transistor radio to your show at night back in my boyhood hometown, Apison, TN. You are one of the figures, along with Dex Card, Larry Lujack, Ron Riley,
Clark Weber and Dan Ingram and HOA of WABC ( I could pick their signal as well) that inspired me to go into radio. I remember being fascinated by your "low-key" style, when so many of your contemporaries, Biondi for instance, were screaming into the mike.
  Although I did not make broadcasting a career, I did finance my college education working in the business, and even now (at age 56) I work as a weekend DJ at Oldies 93.1 in Knoxville.  Recently I contacted Ron Riley via email in Baltimore.  He was very gracious in answering.  It was good to hear from an old idol.   
I am now a columnist for the Knoxville daily newspaper, and several readers have suggested I sell my pieces in book form...on the internet.  I notice you are doing the same with your book and CD.  I wonder if you might give me some pointers on how I might get started with such a enterprise?  I am thinking of producing an e-book instead of having a hard copy printed.  Then customers could download a PDF version after submitting their credit card number for the purchase price.  BTW, Thanks for countless hours of listening pleasure.  Sincerely, Doug Hullander
 
A.   "The first thing you need, Doug, is an established web site.  If you don't have one already registered you can find help in any number of places.  Try  www.networksolutions.com   They have been in business for quite a few years.  They also supply a search that allows you to check on whether the name you have chosen is already being used.  There's no cost for the search service.  Self publishing is the easiest way to go.  I chose to produce my manuscript in book form, but I am considering using a PDF process for the next book.  Since you have an established newspaper column, promotion is less of a problem.  Downloading of a book from your web site is a very easy way to service your readers.  I employ the charge card capabilities of   www.paypal.com  which allows the use of either Visa or MasterCard.  They have been very reliable.  Some folks worry about allowing the reproduction of an original document.  I guess this is a concern, but I have found from my own experience that for the most part "people are honest."   Let me know the progress of your book.  Stay in touch.    ART

 

Q.   "Art:  I vaguely remember from the sixties or seventies, a strike (or something) at WLS that forces all of the DJs out.  Management put something ON THE AIR called Maynard the mechanical music man, to announce each song.  Is this mental fatigue on my part or did this actually happen???  No one (friends or relatives) I know remembers this, either.   DAVE
 
A.   "Nothing wrong with your memory Dave.  The strike you referred to happened in the late '60s when we all were forced to leave the station in support of newswriters in New York who were on strike.  I must tell you this did not light up our room.  First of all we were entering a crucial rating period, and being forced off the air was not the way to win.  Since we were not allowed at the station, all the programs were hosted by either sales personnel or members of our clerical staff.  It was not hard to fill the void during the day or even up to midnight, but the all night show (East Of Midnight) was not a time anyone was willing to volunteer their services.  So, we contacted Pam's studio and had them recorded song titles through a device called a "Solo Vox", which a person would hold to their throat and as they would speak a raspy musical voice would come out.  We named this voice "Maynard."  Maynard became quite popular, and after the strike ended we received fan mail asking if we would bring "him" back.  I believe they did in the form of a jingle package, and Maynard earned his 15 minutes.   ART

 

Q.   "I am looking for any information on singer Ral Donner 1961-62...and pictures of him..his birthday..thankyou.  
Lynn M.
 
A.  
"Ralph Stuart Emanuel Donner was born on February 10th 1943 in Chicago, Il.  Ral sang at school assemblies, got hooked on music, and learned to play piano, guitar & accordion.   His first public appearance as a Rock'n'Roll singer took place on September 6, 1957 at a High School Dance.  The next year he formed a band with some kids from Taft High School called "Ralph Donner & the Rockin' Five." 
I think that it is important to understand that even though Ral Donner idolized Elvis Presley all his life, he never considered himself an "Elvis imitator."  He just happened to have a similar sound.  Ral quickly became very popular in the Chicago area.  He even received a mention in the widely read "Kup's Column" in the Chicago Tribune.  I always admired Ral because of his "straight ahead" determination, even as a kid, getting himself seen by an audience all around the city.  He became involved in everything from local TV to appearing in Chicago's elite nightclub -- the Chez Paree. 
Like they say, Everyone gets their 15 minutes somewhere.  Ral's came early in 1961 when he met George Goldner, who ran Gone records.  George was from "the old school" of the record business, and tried his best to teach Ral what he needed to do to succeed.   George released Ral's first record "Girl Of My Best Friend" before the two had ever signed a contract.  The record was an instant hit in Chicago.  It climbed to number 2 on the WLS Silver Dollar Survey.  This was followed by the million seller  "You Don't Know What You've Got" -- which turned out to be a prophecy as well as a hit record.  George hired a songwriter, Doug Lapham, to write songs specifically for Ral.  Got him a two-week appearance (joining a host of other artists) at the Brooklyn Paramount, and also four appearances on the Dick Clark Bandstand.  He even gave Ral the keys to his Cadillac.
It is very easy to find a new manager when you're on top.  The wrong person was whispering into Ral's ear, telling him that George was not giving him a fair count on the records sold.  Ral refused to show up at his next recording session, and after getting George on the phone, accused him of not paying all the royalties that were due.  George begged him not to do this.  What Ral did not know was that George's business partner was Morris Levy -- owner of Roulette Records -- who  was on an extension phone, listening.   Morris could not contain himself and jumped into the conversation in an attempt to explain the "business end" of the music business, and how disastrous it would be to consider crossing the street to a new label and new management in the beginnings of a five-year contract, especially after delivering a  million seller to a new artist.   Morris' advise landed on deaf ears.  Ral brought George to court in Chicago.  George got the case transferred to his home turf, New York.  The five year contract was broken. The new manager never got Ral off First base, and  his career was all but over. 
Ral Donner drifted from label to label.  Eventually he gave up recording on his own.  In fact, it wasn't until August 16th, 1977, the Day that Elvis died, which prompted Ral to return to a recording studio in Chicago and produce a tribute song to Elvis called "The Day The Beat Stopped."  It was released in early 1978.  Two years later a double Evlis tribute album, "1935 to 1977: I've Been Away For A While Now" was released with Ral doing the narration.  The album was only available through mail-order.
Early one morning in late August, 1980 Ral started coughing up blood.  They found a spot on each lung and he was diagnosed with cancer.  The doctors gave him six months to live.
Ral passed away on April 6th 1984.  He was 41. ART

 

Q.   "Hey Art!  I just want to let you know that I love your website.  I especially enjoyed listening to the Gary Granger aircheck from 1967 because I am from Atlanta and remember WQXI and loved it.  I was a teenager in the late 1960s and also listended to Wls as much as I could.  At the time I listened I thought it was the best rock station in the country and told people that.  I also checked out the KLIF clip from November 22 1963.  I was in The sixth grade that year and on the day that the terrible news came from Dallas about President Kennedy I was in the middle of taking a test.  When I listened to the clip I saw that day so clearly in my memory.  I'm very interested in finding what radio sounded like in the 1950s.  Can you tell me where I might find some information and some audio files about Alan Freed?  I certainly would appreciate any information.  Thank you very much and keep up the great work."   PHIL
 
A.   "Even though thirty-eight years have flown by, most people still vividly remember exactly what they were doing when the tragic news about John F. Kennedy came blaring from their radio.   Now to your question.  One of the biggest contributions Alan Freed left us in his legacy was opening the door to white acceptance of black music.  He also coined the phrase "Rock and Roll."  Alan honed his craft in 1945 at WAKR in Akron, Ohio.  Four years later he went to Cleveland and called the show "Moondog's Rock 'n' Roll Party."  Alan Freed always told his audience that he would reward them with a free show featuring the top black acts of the day.  In March, 1952 he made good his promise and put on the "Moondog Coronation Ball."  10,000 fans filled the seats, while 6000 more, unable to get in, crashed the gates.  Even though all the entertainers were rhythm and blues acts,  two thirds of the audience were white.  Cleveland police called it a riot.  The power of rock and roll became a fact of life.  WINS, New York was the next stop.  His show became No. 1 in a matter of months.  Live rock and roll shows at the Brooklyn Paramount and his appearance in a bunch of movies (Rock Around The Clock, etc.) helped spread Rock and Roll's popularity from coast-to-coast.  But Alan Freed's success put him on a collision course.  He was a tragedy waiting to happen.  Payola.  An ugly word reflecting an even uglier way of conducting business.  In 1959 the U.S. House oversight committee began to look into deejays who took gifts from record companies in return for playing their records on their shows.  A bunch of deejays and program directors were named in the scandal, but for whatever reason,  the "Committee" zeroed in on Alan Freed, period.  WABC in New York asked him to sign a statement that he had never accepted payola.  Alan refused and was fired.  It was just a matter of time that he was charged with income tax evasion by the IRS.  Alan Freed was the only deejay subpoenaed by the oversight committee and he refused to testify even though he was given immunity.  He took the hit for an entire industry.  Eventually he would plead guilty to 29 counts of commercial bribery, and received a $300 fine and a six months suspended sentence.  But his career was over.  He began to drink heavily.  In 1964 Alan Freed was indicted by a federal grand jury for income tax evasion.  They claimed he owed almost $38,000.  Before he could answer the charges he was hospitalized.  Alan died on January 20th, 1965.  Broke and broken.  He was 43.  Personal Note:  I had a chance to work with Alan Freed in 1957 when he brought one of his Rock-'N'-Roll shows to Akron, Ohio.  I'll tell you what really fascinated me -- even though years had passed since he did his shows on WAKR, as his fans filed by backstage, Alan remembered every one of them. The little guy who worked in a newsstand on the corner.  A waitress in a coffee shop.  Etc.  Each would start their conversation with "hi Alan, remember me?"  And he did.  He not only loved the music, he loved the people.  Alan Freed was inducted in to The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1986.  You can listen to a couple of clips at -- www.reelradio.com -- Do a search for Alan Freed.  ART ROBERTS

 

Q.   "As I listen to radio commercials and "voice overs" for TV, I wonder how people get that kind of work.  Can you point me in a direction to make inquiries or start a "voice" career?  I'm told my voice is easy to listen to, and my diction is very good.  I currently work as a corporate trainer, teaching customer service and computer skills to new hires, and leadership, coaching and supervisory skills to our management staff."    DIANE
 
A.   "Your area code indicates you are in Chicago.  That's good.  Chicago is a major center for voice work.  The first thing I would suggest is to enroll in an actors workshop.  This training will expand your reading capability.  There is an excellent one that offers evening classes (and the name escapes me) but I remember it was a nonprofit venture.  I would plan on staying with them for at least two years.
 
Freelance voice work is very competitive.  After a while you will become comfortable with auditions and eventually work will come.  I have a friend in the San Francisco area who started auditioning about three years ago, and recently is on the road to establishing himself in the freelance community.
 
You'll be required to join AFTRA for voice work and SAG if you do any on camera performances.  You don't have to join until you get your first assignment.  In time you will need to put together a demo tape to distribute to talent agents, advertising agencies, etc.  It takes a lot of perseverance and patience to get a foothold in this arena.  DON'T EVER let anyone discourage you.  Good luck Diane, and let me know how you are progressing.   ART ROBERTS


Q. "Art do you remember Madura's in Whiting. Back in the 60s I worked for Mr. Madura as a 8 yr old cleaning the place for the Sat night festivities. He and his wife were great people. Anyway, one night you were the MC and you gave me a 45 if I remember correctly of the Trolls, "Every Day and Every Night" which I though was cool . Yes, that was a long time ago wasn't it. I just thought I'd see if you remembered Madura's !!!!!!!" 
STEVE

A. Boy, do I ever. I had many appearances at Madura's Danceland, and always enjoyed performing before a very enthusiastic crowd. In fact, I loved to appear anywhere in Indiana. You know Steve, there aren't many people that started working when they were eight years old. I bet you have a lot of stories to share. The old ballrooms of yesterday each have a history and most of them date back to the big bands. Too bad we don't have treasurers like that to share today. ART

Q.   "Hope this finds you well.... i would like to know what all you fix when you have the bratwurst and beer ... the hole nine yards so to speak...would love to try it sometime this summer ...  thanks,"    CALVIN FROM ALABAMA
 
A.   The very first thing that I will suggest to you Calvin, unless you are planning to fly to Munich to purchase your bratwurst, by the sausages from www.usinger.com    in Milwaukee.  You need to have GENUINE GERMAN BRATWURST.  They have many varieties from which to choose.  I prefer their cooked bratwurst, which comes in packages of five to a pound.  They require you by a minimum of six pounds, but they are delivered frozen and they keep very well in a freezer.
 
Okay, start by using your heaviest pot.  Add some oil (I like using olive oil) and brown the amount of bratwurst you intend to cook.  After they've browned on all sides, remove the sausages and set aside.  Now add a large white onion coarsely chopped and cook it until it is translucent.  Place the bratwurst back in the pot, and cover them with beer.  Allow them to simmer for approximately 20 to 25 minutes.  Remove the bratwurst and finish them on your barbecue grill.  Turn them frequently so they don't burn.  If the casing should burst open, remove from the grill.
 
Serve on a bakery bun with a good brown mustard and sauer kraut.  Buy the brand in a jar (taste better than what is packed in a can).   ART  

 

Q.   In the early 50's there was a very popular novelty tune played on the radio,  All i remember of it, the concluding line to each verse ... the punch line "I discovered a rat tat tat (drum beat) right before my eyes..."  Can you help?    J.C.
 
A.   I think the record is "The Thing" by Phil Harris.  Phil Harris was a singer, band leader and comic who teamed with Jack Benny on radio and TV for 16 years, and was the voice of Baloo the bear in Disney's "The Jungle Book."  He died (8-11-95) at his home in Rancho Mirage.  Phil was 91. His trademark was a finger-snapping rendition of "That's What I Like About the South," and he greeted Jack Benny with  "Hiya, Jackson!"  "If it hadn't been for radio," he once said, "I would still be a traveling orchestra leader.  For 17 years I played one-night stands, sleeping on buses. I never even voted, because I didn't have any residence."  Besides "The Jungle Book" he also appeared in 2  Bing Crosby films.  After Bing died, Phil took his place doing TV color commentary for the annual Bing Crosby Pro-Am Pebble Beach golf tournament.  His hit records included: "The Thing," "Smoke! Smoke! Smoke! That Cigarette" and "The Preacher and the Bear."   ART
 

Q.   "Whatever happened to John Box?   I believe he is the only owner I know of who had to compete with BOTH Todd Storz (in St. Louis) and Gordon McLendon (in Dallas) and did so fairly successfully in the late 50s and early 60s.  In fact, quite an array of Top 40 legends graced his stations (WIL & KBOX), including Gary Owens and Dan Ingram.  Do you know what happened to him?  I believe he sold both stations in the mid to late 60s.
GARY

 
A.   Like I always say, when you need to know -- tap the shoulder of someone IN the know -- in this case, my good friend John Rook.
 
"John Box ya say....hmmmm.  I think he was the father of Alan Box, who went on to form EZ  Communications  out of the Philly area, then they sold their group three years ago....I thought I remember John Box passing away a few years ago.. but do remember him starting KBOX and that stations battle with Gordon at KLIF....John Box then was involved with Bill Meeks in the formation of Pams, Inc....where I met son Alan Box almost 40 years ago...."     JR
 

Q.   "I love those silver dollar surveys.  Is there a place to go and view them all? If not could you incorporate them into your site?    D. G.

 
A.   You must have ESP.  I was planning to introduce a couple of new features in the next two or three weeks, and featuring a Silver Dollar Survey is one of them.  No, don't thank me -- thank my friends who are helping to locate these treasured surveys.  Any volunteers???  ART
 

Q.   "There once was a Little Rock Ark. radio station with the call letters KAAY.  They had a late night show called Beaker St.  What are the call letters now?  What is it's Frequency?  What is it's present format??   D. T. 

 
A.   KAAY is currently Talk Radio at 1090 AM, broadcasting live from Little Rock, AR.  They are planning to utilize Internet streaming via Real Audio in the near future at  www.1090kaay.com   Last I heard, they were part of Citadel Communications Corporation.  Beaker Street is a long running show on Little Rock radio.  Clyde Clifford, the host, was on KAAY from 1966 through 1972.  He is currently broadcasting on KZLR-FM (KZ-95).   ART

Q. "How come there are so many loudmouthed -- foul mouthed morning shows on radio? There is nothing worth listening to in my city and whenever I find a disc jockey I like, he or she disappears in a few months. Art, radio sucks." B.W.

A. Amen brother, amen. Humor is more than words -- it is a combination of using eye contact, facial expressions, a relatable story, and a victim. All humor has a victim! That is what makes you laugh. It triggers that little voice inside who says "that could've been me." Radio doesn't allow for eye contact and facial expressions, so the shock jock's of
today choose to EMBARRASS their listeners with four letter words, reference to body parts, making fun of size and appearance, etc. It is very hard to do humor on radio. Best to stick with relatable stories and hope for a smile. The day will come when radio stations finally discover that "audience entertainment" does not end at 9 AM. And the
"Regis Live" approach to comedy produces "loyalty." ART

Q.   Someone recently told me that Al Lohman, of the "Lohman and Barkley Show" and many other gigs, had passed away.  I can find nothing on the Internet to confirm this; everything I found indicated that he was alive and well, working at a station near Palm Springs, California.  I know Roger Barkley died back in 1998, but... I was a Lohman and Barkley fan for their entire run at KFI in Los Angeles, and would greatly appreciate any information you might have.  Thanks!   M.B.
 
A. 
Whenever I have a question that I need some help on, just like they do on "The Millionaire Show" -- I phone a friend.  So, I called my Buddy and PREMIER PROGRAMMER John Rook who, among his radio station credits, has KFI high on the list.  This is what John Rook had to say:
 
 "Al Lohman just telephoned me two weeks ago, it got so hilarious we both were laughing so hard,  that we had to hang up ... so I owe him a return call.  Al is looking forward to heading to Branson, Mo.  this early summer to visit his son.   He continues to live at Rancho Mirage, Calif., but did just recently hang up the headset at his morning show gig at the top rated AM in Palm Springs.  Sez, "Hell, I guess I'm retired, for now..."
 
And then I found this information on the Internet:
 
 LOS ANGELES (December 23, 1997 08:00 a.m. EST  -- Roger Barkley, a radio and television personality who joined Al Lohman to entertain Southern California radio audiences for 25 years, died of cancer Sunday.  He was 61.
 
Barkley teamed with Lohman in 1961, and the two entertained radio audiences with a cast of mythical characters from a soap opera town they dubbed "Pine City."
 
The pair, who stayed together until 1985, made appearances on such national television programs as "The Ed Sullivan Show" and "Hollywood Squares." They also made stage, nightclub and movie appearances and had their own NBC network game show, "Name Droppers."
 
A year before they broke up, the duo also received a star on the Hollywood "Walk of Fame."   ART
 

Q.   I was on a call with a listener for our daily "Money Machine."  I asked the listener how much money was in the jackpot and he said "$2362."  When I told him that was not the right answer, he said "F*** Y**" and hung up.  How do you handle a caller like that?   MARK

 
A.   That's one reason a six second delay is a handy tool.  The best reaction you can have is no reaction at all.  Callers like that are after only one thing -- Attention.  If they do not get a rise or a comment, they probably will not call back.  Also, by not creating an issue about an incident that was beyond your control, you lessen the possibility of a negative audience reaction.  The best thing you can do is to continue your show as if nothing happened.  But remember that voice -- in case there is a "Next Time!"   ART   
 

Q.   Can't stay away from your web site.....Each time I look at the site I learn so much..... Ever think about starting an "Art Roberts School" so that you can bring new talent to the world?  One can learn off the internet! Just imagine 100's of little Arts on the air.  A.M.

 
A.   That is truly a unique idea, one worth consideration.  I've never believed that there is a "one size fits all" anything.  Therefore, if an "Art Roberts School" should ever become a reality it would have to be structured so that each person can benefit from the information shared on a one-to-one basis.  We would also need to develop two curriculums.  One for on-air personalities, and another for sales growth.  Hmmmm.  Lots of possibilities.  I sure would like to hear YOUR opinion.  Would an "Art Roberts School" focusing on developing your personality and radio skills, and also (for those in the sales office) developing sales methods that work be something you would be interested in?  How much would a 13 week online course be worth?  And please add anything else you care to.
 
Let me hear from you.  Art@Artroberts.com    I value your input.   ART

Q. Art, I have been trying to verify the exact date of the Disc Jockey Association (DJA) convention which was held in Florida sometime between 1959 and 1961. It got media attention for being rather out of control and was a close prelude to the payola scandals, I believe. What city? Miami? I think this may have been the first and last DJA convention.  In my search, I hit upon your site. I will be spending a lot of time reading it. Marvelous material here. Thank you. Freeman

A. Miami is the city that hosted the Disc Jockey convention in 1959. I think the date was around July 18. A couple of thousand radio professionals attended, along with representatives of every record label of that time. To me, the highlight of the meeting (s) was an address given by Gordon McClendon who opened by thanking the members of the committee, and then adding, "Ladies and Gentlemen, Ex Employees... " It brought the house down -- half the people there worked for Gordon at KLIF through the years.  The live entertainment was outstanding. George Shearing and Peggy Lee not only entertained the crowd, but their performance was recorded and everyone who attended received a copy of this recording in a very impressive boxed set. When the convention was over, the headlines in the Miami paper read "Booz, Broads, Bribery." Witch hunters came out of the woodwork ART 

Q.   Dear Art-   I was born in Chicago in 1952, and remember you quite well. For years, I've been carrying around one of my earliest memories, the name of a song that was played on WLS and/or WCFL.  I remember it was the first song that I thought was "neat".  I must have been 5 - 7 years old, which means the song probably dates to 1957 to 1960.  My recollection of the title is something like "No Shameeze Please".  I have no idea what the second word is or how it is spelled, so the spelling above is phonetic only.  Does this suggest any song you remember from that period?  Thanks for any help you can give me.   Sincerely,  B. S.  
 
A.   Well, I turned this problem over to my friend "Rick The Record Ghuru" who,  seated on his magic rug hovering 14 inches off the floor,  chanted the following words:  "The song is "No Chemise Please" by Gerry Granahan from 1958.  Granahan also formed "Dickie Doo And The Don'ts"-- remember "Ne Ne Na Na Na Na Noo Noo?"  RICK
 
(Thanks, Rick.  Don't fall off the rug!)   ART

Q. I read and enjoy your website every week. Thank you. My question though is WHY do you put forth so much effort, news and advice without asking for anything in return? (ANONYMOUS)

A. Everything is not done for money. Looking back, I did not work any harder for a radio station just because they paid me a higher salary. In fact, I probably expended more energy in smaller markets than in major cities because small towns allow a person to hone their craft -- while larger markets expect to hire a polished personality. There were a lot of "greats" along the way. Great managers. Great program directors.  Great talent. They all turned out to be "lessons in life." Sharing these experiences and applying them to the business model of today perpetuates my dedication to an industry (Radio) that offers few training grounds and even fewer sounding boards. Filling in the holes in both these areas with meaningful anecdotes and advice is a service I gladly offer. Now, I have some advice for you. "Proudly sign your name to everything you write." 
ART ROBERTS

Q.   We have something different in place of our normal Q&A.  Two dear friends, Lyle Dean and John Rook, each sent a copy of a dissertation entitled "Only Real Radio Folk Understand!"   It is well worth sharing.
 
A.   Thinking...about how and why you got into radio, who influenced you, your best radio moments, what you still hope to achieve. War stories about broadcasting despite impossible conditions, accidentally locking yourself out of the studio, on-air flubs. Stories about personal connections that have been made with listeners: the girl who called to request her late grandmother's favorite song... the fan who sent you chocolate chip cookies on your birthday... the listener who berated you for mispronouncing the name of his favorite artist. Stories about transistor radios under the bed covers and at the beach.
 
Endless struggles to control the car radio buttons. Would you PLEASE turn that down; and wait, I want to hear this!
 
Novelty records and girl groups and Motown and Stax and Cadence and Elvis from the waist up and hearing "I Want To Hold Your Hand"  for the very first time. Stories about lovesick teenagers dedicating songs back and forth to each other. About children turning on the radio before they're even awake, feverishly hoping to hear those magic words from their local disc jockey: "No school, snow day.... "
 
About loneliness and a solitary voice reaching out to you. About making a complete stranger laugh or reflect or remember. About baseball games from far away on car radios. About someone driving across town or cross-country, with only you and your radio brethren for company.
 
Stories about Larry Lujack and John "Records"  Landecker and Robert W. and Wolfman Jack and Gary Owens and Dr. Don and Kenny Everett (ask someone from the UK about Kenny) and those crazy young jocks who brought American-style radio to Europe in the1960s by taking to the seas in honest-to-God pirate radio ships (imagine broadcasting under the worst possible conditions; now imagine doing it while seasick).
 
Stories about bad news and everyone immediately turning on the radio. About sad news and where you were when you heard it. About practical jokes and misunderstandings and mild or wild revenge. About getting fired, packing up the U-Haul, and being scared all over again. Getting angry, getting older and "the good old days."  Static-y voices criss-crossing in the night. Fifteen-hour air shifts, flaky jocks, disappearing engineers.
 
Stories about legendary radio people you almost met in an elevator at a convention. The major market PD who did you a favor; the request line caller you can't forget. Practical jokes on the newsguy, disappearing stationery, and a bedroom full of promo records that one day will be worth something.
 
Staying up lat